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GOP Freaks Out Over Obama’s 8-Day Vacation. Here’s A Reality Check For Them (Video)

GOP Freaks Out Over Obama’s 8-Day Vacation. Here’s A Reality Check For Them (Video)

Every time President Obama and his family take a vacation, the hypocrites on the right whine and complain about it. They typically gripe about how much it costs taxpayers, or how terrible it looks in light of all the people struggling economically in this country.

Here are some of the complaints this time, as President Obama and his family enjoy an 8-day vacation at Martha’s Vinyard.

Utah Republican Rep. Chris Stewart: “Most of the people in my district could never afford to visit Martha’s Vineyard, and those who could would feel uncomfortable vacationing in a place that has a reputation for being for the elite.”

Maryland Republican Party chairman Diana Waterman: “When there are so many people out there looking for jobs and Americans are struggling to make ends meet, this sends the wrong message to people who are struggling to survive.”

Here’s a couple of reality checks for those critics: At the same point in his presidency, George W. Bush had taken 399 days of vacation, much of it spent at his Crawford, Texas ranch. President Obama, meanwhile, has taken just 87 days of vacation.

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Does ANYONE remember Republicans bashing George W. Bush over his excessive vacation days? Didn’t think so. Did the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck take President Obama’s predecessor to task for having taken over a full years worth of vacation time, or roughly 20% of the total time he had spent in office? Nope. They did not.

Not to mention that currently Congress is on a 5-week vacation. In the video below, the question was asked: What are they taking a vacation from? This Congress has passed the least number of bills ever, so it’s a good question to ask. Oh, I suppose we won’t see the 41st attempt at repealing ObamaCare anytime during the next few weeks. But we’re sure that with plenty of rest, the House GOP members will get right to work on that when they get back from sipping martinis.

Please watch this great video as Al Sharpton on Politics Nation, along with guest Nancy Giles, candidly expose “Vacation Gate” for the fraud that it really is, especially compared to George W. Bush’s time off.

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    The same tired old accusations of elitism and excess! This is the same song they have been singing since the day he was sworn in, they simply ignore all of the facts that show their BS to be absolutely ridiculous.

    When I have tried to point the facts out to a Teapub they prove themselves to be surprisingly adept at manufacturing and flinging more bull on the fly to “prove” that there is no comparison between his vacations and those of other Presidents. Tell them that he has taken less time off than Dubya and they reply (and this is a good one), “Yes, but Bush’s vacations were WORKING vacations.” They seem to think that pulling brush is doing the work of the people.

    They also like to claim that other Presidents did not vacation is such expensive places. I try to tell them that Presidents pay their own personal expenses, not the taxpayers, and they either ignore it, call me a liar or come up with some lame answer as, but he takes a lot more people along and that cost us more. They want to know why he doesn’t fly commercial flights which would be cheaper than flying AF-1 and taking all those people with him. They can’t grasp the concept that no President makes his own travel arrangements. He tells the Secret Service where he wants to go and when and they take over from there. They would never allow him to take a commercial flight!

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      Going home and going to Martha s vineyard are hardly the same. Going Home as Bush done cost Americans nothing, While Obamas Vacations cost millions. BIGGGG Difference.

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        Oh but it did cost tax payers when he went home. Try 800,000. a week

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          Bush only used Air Force 1 to fly to texas and that cost us $20 Million

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          Actually Rachel, it cost a bit more for Bush’s flights to Crawford. Bush took 77 trips, it’s a 9 hour round-trip flight, and Boehner estimated the cost of AF-1 at $179,000/hr.
          http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/speaker-boehner-white-house-should-reimburse-taxpayers-cost-campaign-trips

          From there it’s just math:
          77 x 9 x $179K = ~$124M

          Bush’s flights to Crawford to clear brush cost the tax payers $124,000,000.

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            A 9 hour round trip??? What do you think he was flying in as Air Force 1…a blimp?? I have no particular axe to grind either way politically, but you are so far off on your flight time that I have to disregard your entire argument. I shouldn’t be too surprised…It’s pretty typical of both sides of the aisle…throw completely erroneous and over-inflated numbers at a topic that you clearly know nothing about and call it supporting “data”. Do some homework next time. It might actually result in a moderation of your views…and hopefully a realization that demonizing the opposition is the least common denominator of politics.

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            Youarewrong, YOU are certainly not right. He had the flying time wrong yes but Dubya had a habit of going to the ranch and then gallivanting all over the country every day racking up a lot more miles on AF-1 than Obama does when he goes on vacation and stays in one place. Dubya was the king of spending our money for no good reason other than that he could.

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        Your ignorance knows no bounds, does it, Linda.

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        As Bush done, good English. During Bush’s second term alone, Laura Bush made five “goodwill” trips to Africa. President Bush made the trip twice during his presidency. Laura Bush also took her daughters with her, and they went on a safari. Read your information, http://www.crewof42.com/uncategorized/the-most-vacationing-president-in-u-s-history-george-w-bush/

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        Please explain to me how President Bush going to his Ranch did not cost the US taxpayers?

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        Don’t be silly, do you think ANY place Bush or any POTUS goes regularly is left un protected when the POTUS is not present. How long would it take a terrorist group to figure this out? There is ALWAYS someone (more than a few) agents present 24/7/365 at any regular “vacation spot”. Grow up, It’s part of National security to protect our President. Any President, Republican, Democrat, or Other, no matter his race or creed, represents our Great Country. Give it a rest or move on. Snowden would welcome you for a visit I’m sure.

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        maybe if he didn’t take so many vacations we wouldn’t whine about it. and then to have his dog airlifted to go on vacation with him is just ridiculous. what an f’n moron. he just needs to be impeached. try living like the rest of the nation mr president and see that when you go on vacation you wouldn’t air lift nothing to anywhere because of the cost. use your damn head and do what is right for the American people and stop wasting money you jerk. if you wanna waste money throw it at the homeless or feed the hungry. take care of the people of the U.S.A and our country before taking care of other countries. lemme just ask you a simple question mr president “if” your daughter got married and something were to happen like she lost her job, wouldn’t you be there to help her through it or would you go and give another country money for whatever the reason. I thought so, you would be there to help her, so please stop giving our tax dollars to other countries and use it where it belongs, here at home and not abroad.

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          FYI pres Obama is trying very hard to start jobs, and protect soc sec and get medical for everyone. Maybe you should go after the GOP congress who lies to you and is busy collecting their pay but doing nothing for you or any other american, they are now on 5 weeks and this is not their first this yr so wake up!

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          So you hide behind a false ID and call yourself the Whizard, Huh? I used to work with a guy we all called the Whip, as in smart as. It was a sarcastic title, since the Whip was dumb as a bag of rocks. The President does not take “so many” vacations! He has taken less than any recent President and they all trail Dubya by a huge margin. Obama has taken less than a quarter of the number of days off as Dubya had at the same point in his term of office. Go ahead and keep making things up or repeating the crap that Faux News and all the rest of the right wing propagandists have made up, it will never become true no matter how many times you repeat it.

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          His dog airlifted. Are you out of your mind? What do you think Bush did with his two dogs when they went on vacation? You people are beyond pathetic and ignorant

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          I am obviously wasting my time trying to convince “the whizard” of actual true facts due to his obvious ignorance, but I am putting it out there, anyway. Good name, as you are somebody who “whizes” on the truth. There is no such thing as the President “air lifting” his dog anywhere. It rides on AF1 with everybody else, with no extra money, time nor effort for anybody else. As for vacation days, since Obama has taken less than any recent President, and your buddy, W, took more than 4 times the amount than Obama, totalling 20% of his entire time in office (that is @ 1 week per month), it only shows how desperate you hypocrites are to try to smear his name. Making up fake scandals hasn’t worked. Trying to screw-up the economy even more, intentionally, so you could blame him hasn’t worked. And, this won’t work either. Damn, just how can you guys make it look like the black man failed? You can’t. Despite all your Party’s obstacles, lies and unprecedented disrespect, he has still managed to do a good job. Just imagine how much better this country would be if you all hadn’t?

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          This is one of the goofiest things that I have ever read.

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          Did you read the article? 79 v 399 vacation days.
          Who’s ripping off the taxpayers?

          The dog was flown out on a plane carrying staff and equipment. He did not fly solo.

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        that is where you are wrong. Bush going to his ranch actually cost us more. SS alone was triple for the ranch. look it up.

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        Let’s not forget that Bush vacationed at Kennebunkport, Maine many times. That’s hardly Branson, Missouri.

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        Only fools believe vacationing on a ranch costs any less. The President and his/her family still has to have security, eat, transport. If you think for one minute Bush didn’t have guest over for a BBQ at your expense, you need to get your head out of the sand.

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        This is the exact ignorance that abounds in this country. No matter WHERE the PRESIDENT goes for vacation it will cost the people the EXACT same amount of money. people who argue otherwise are just ignorant of reality. It requires the same amount of Security, they still must use Air Force 1, it still costs the same for support staff etc. The perk of the presidency is they can take a trip anywhere in the country. There is only one president and the republicans are jackasses for this entire argument. ESPECIALLY while they are on a FIVE WEEK PAID HOLIDAY after not doing ONE DAMN THING in office.

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        Are you serious? The time that Bush took off equals nearly 3 years. That cost the American people Millions. His do nothing, lazy, stupid self. It makes no difference if he went home to Martha’s vineyard or Egypt. Nothing was getting done while he sat on his lazy behind. You people are so ridiculous. Obama is entitle to take a vacation. but nothing he ever does will be good enough for you racist pigs.

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        You’re not much of one for facts, are you?

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        You are so wrong. Believe what you want but you are wrong Bush was costly.

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        Bush still wasn’t working at the White House and he used Air Force One to get there. His other vacations costs. He still took more than Obama.

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      During Bush’s two terms, the cost of operating Air Force One ranged from $56,800 to $68,000 an hour. Bush used Air Force One 77 times to go to his ranch in Crawford, TX. Using the low end cost of $56,800, Media Matters calculated that each trip to Crawford cost taxpayers $259,687 each time, and $20 million total for Bush’s ranch flights. These numbers only include the cost of flying the president to Crawford. The cost of transporting and accommodating staff, media, friends and family is not included in Bush’s vacation numbers.

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      He IS the President of USA. He is elite! Yet he has done more for the disenfranchised than any president before him. You Americans are privledged beyond beyond belief having him at the helm. We Canadians have to live with Harper who has done more to DAMAGE Canada and her culture than any Prime Minister in history.

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    You did an excellent job explaining it Bob! We know it is NOT about the vacation days, or the way he gets there, but it is about him being a black man in THEIR white house. And he is a Democrat. They refuse to come out from under their sheets long enough to see the real world, and THEY are destroying us because of their blindness to reality. It does get hard trying to explain to them THEY are the ones tearing down this nation with hate and intolerance; but, we have to keep moving forward, no matter how many of them throw their dumb butts in our way! Now to get back to my movie “What About Bob”!

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    It’s hard to believe such outrageous rationalizing gets by here. Moving to one’s own home is not a vacation—when the President does it is called “working at home,.” Going to resorts, expensive hotels and otherwise taking a break from work, on the other hand, is called “vacation.” The difference is real, and the difference in expense is significant. And the hypocrisy is all on this administration which lectured Americans about cutting back on “Vegas vacations,’” and is supposed to be cutting unnecessary costs—like flying a dog to Martha’s Vineyard via military charter.

    How can you look at yourself in the mirror?

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      Oh please – going home and pretending to clear brush is NOT the work of the president but his CHOICE on how to kick back. Bush took more time off than any president other than John Adams. That many flights with that many Secret Service and staffers cost far more than this president’s vacation for which he pays his OWN expenses. You cannot rationalize this without being an utter hypocrite. I did not pay Bush to take that much time off or the Congress today to take FIVE WEEKS vs. the President’s 8 days. Give it up – you have no argument.

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      You really need to read once in awhile Jack, and I don’t mean Drudge, The Blaze, Infowars, etc. You will also get no valid information from Faux News. Presidents pay for their own personal expenses, a vacation is a personal expense. As for Dubya “working” at home…ROFLMMFAO!!! Dubya didn’t work when he was in the Oval Office, he has no brain and therefore was incapable of performing the duties of the office. This President does more actual work before Breakfast than Dubya did in a month.

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        Funny thing, mentioning presidents with non-functioning brains, because we don’t exactly have Einstein in office now. That is, unless you think it takes brains to make the claims Obama has, like Austrian is a language, Hawaii is a part of Asia, we built the Intercontinental Railroad, and Charleston, SC, Savannah, GA, and Jacksonville, FL are all cities in the Gulf.

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          Where do you come up with such Bullshit? Obama was born in Hawaii, so there is no way he would ever say it was part of Asia. Or, are you one of those ignorant racists that believe he was born in Kenya, despite no facts saying so and all saying he was born in Hawaii? Just because you want something to be so, doesn’t mean it is. I don’t know you, but from your comments, I can guarantee that Obama earned his way to a much better university than you did, if you even went, and has a much higher IQ than you, too. I can only guess that you get your “information” from people like Rush Limbaugh, who has been proven, more times than anybody can know, that he pulls “facts” out of his fat ass. Based on your comments, you should just stay out of this and most other arguments, because you are just showing your idiotic ignorance.

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          What? Your comment is crazy! Obama studied law. Bush W had a C average. Facts are facts. You can’t make something up and claim it to be truth… Oh yeah oops that’s the GOP style. So sad, so very sad.

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            Actually, Cristen they can make crap up and claim that it is factual, they do it every day, unfortunately for them saying something is true doesn’t make it so. I would also point out another difference between the President and Dubya, while Dubya obtained admission and his degree on a legacy, the President not only was admitted to college based on his scholastic achievements and went on to be a professor of Constitutional Law, no small achievement in itself.

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          As an outsider looking in from Australia, I have read some pretty “out there” statements. Yours, Skydog, takes the cake. What were you smoking when typed this drivel?

          The really sad thing is that I am more informed about your country’s issues than you are. I guess that’s a result of me not watching Faux News or listening to Rush. Just by your commentary I know you do.

          My suggestion…go get an education (not at WalMart) and stop following O’Reilly and Hannity and co.

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        During Bush’s first term, many of the Presidential decisions were made by Cheney, behind Bush’s back, especially those pertaining to the war (despite Bush being “The Decider”). Once Bush found out, just before his re-election, he cut Cheney off, completely. This is coming from Cheney’s own mouth. It is not some half-cocked conspiracy theory. Look for “The World According To Dick Cheney”.

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          Oh Jinx….you come up with some doozies…”The World According to Dick Cheney” — yes, that would be a factual account. Coming from Cheney’s own mouth means nothing.
          So what you’re saying is that Bush is not responsible for anything, even though he was the President? So all the attacks on him are unfair?
          You need to come up with something better than that. You’re an embarrassment to your education system.

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        While I do agree with the consensus of the comments that Bush took an exponentially greater amount of vacation than the current President, ther eare some things that you are missing. First of all Susan, if you are going to quote sources try getting one that is not blatantly far left leaning as it hurts your argument. Bob, while I do agree with you that Bush cost more while flying back and forth to Crawford, there are some things that you may have overlooked. I think the flight costs may be a little high depending on which aircraft they flew to TX (that would require more research, DC-3, L-1011, or 747). Also since the SS knew he would be spending large amounts of time there they probably left a large contingent of equipment and manpower there as to cut down on transportation costs. For those people who think Bush did not work while at Crawford, you are flat wrong. There are plenty of facts out there that document things that show the large amount of work done while Bush was in TX. A large part of the planning for OIF/OEF (prestrategy with Gen Franks) occured there. I am sure a large amount of the smoke and mirrors to justify invading Iraq also occured there as well. I am sure that many will start the; you dont know WTF you are talking about argument and start the name calling and such. My only point here is to say that each side has it’s crazys and each side calls names and talks shit. What people do not realize is that no matter what, the President is ALWAYS working no matte where he goes because his staff is there and he is still wired into every comms device and network that he needs to do his job.

        I apologize for the soapbox stand but the sides are so entrenched in their bunkers they miss what good the other does and will never admit to them having a good idea. That is why poloticians dont even bother going out for anyone other than the undecided anymore. I personally feel our biggest problem with government these days is our Congress and the fact that they get paid regardless, have healthcare regardless, get vacation regardless and once tenured (think 2 or 3 terms House and 1 term Senate) they are covered for life with a better retirement package than 99% of the normal working family. What people need to do is get out and get involved at the local level and vote. Sorry again for the tirade.

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      First off, when did this administration lecture anybody on taking vacations? Secondly, Bush went to his ranch to get away from his job, doing things other than his job, like golfing. For eight years, his home was The White House, not Texas. So, traveling anywhere away from The White House for leisure, was a vacation. Most of his life was a vacation. Any other job he had was given to him, which he failed. Nobody is hired right off the bat as a CEO. It takes time and experience, which is why every job he was given, he drove the companies into the ground, except for one. And, the only reason that one didn’t was because the Bin Laden family poured millions of dollars into it to keep it afloat. Anyway, all those trips to his ranch were vacations.

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      Jack, having read your mindless comment, I can understand why you need help using a mirror. Turn on a light. Stand in front of a mirror. Then open your piggy little eyes. The dumb-ass you see in the mirror is you.

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      1) I own a vacation home in WI. When I go there it is NOT a working vacation.

      2) All presidents take “working vacations.” BO plays golf. shrub chops
      brush. What’s the difference?

      3) As I understand it BO made an appearance in Miami, then flew to M.V. The dog was flow from DC on a plane with other staffers and supplies. So what?

      4) BO did not have a rich daddy to buy him a ranch. He pays for his vacations out of his own pocket. What business is it of yours to tell him how he can spend his own money?

      Teabillies like you are whiney cry babies. shrub was the stupidest, laziest person ever to occupy the WH.

      shrub was the most expensive vacation president in US history. He was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. president since Herbert Hoover, and more than any other president in history. He used Air Force One more often while on vacation than any other president. shrub used Air Force One as a personal vacation and campaign jet

      Just the costs of flying for each one of his 77 flights to Crawford, TX on Air Force One cost the taxpayers, over $727,000.

      Why aren’t out outraged at this?

      My best advice to you, STFU. You look as stupid as he does.

      “That’s all…NOW WATCH ME HIT THIS DRIVE!” shrub while on vacation right after 911!

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    Bush may have taken more days but his didn’t cost us. He went to HIS ranch. Obama spends millions on his vacations. Its not the time they take for vacation its what it costs that everyone’s complaining about

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      Again, Bush’s Crawford vacations were more expensive for the taxpayer. Please see the article I posted above.

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        Even that friendly article overestimated the cost to the taxpayers, Susan. This is a vacation, not a state trip and therefore the cost of his rooms which they added in would be a personal expense, which he will be paying out of his own pocket.

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      Okay, one more time, Presidents pay their own personal expenses, not the taxpayers! Why is that so hard for you guys to understand? Try to look past the color of the man’s skin, that he is black does not make him evil. I know your masters, the Koch Klan have told you that education is evil and snobbish but the fact is it is neither, it is a virtue! Educated people don’t fall for the lies that they tell, that is why they have told you that it is bad, it makes you malleable and easy to control.

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        Bob – No matter how hard you try, and I admire your persistence, and your fact base, you simply cannot teach these “empty head open mouth” ignoramuses anything because you are not parroting “Faux Noise.” There is simply nothing that trips them up worse than actual FACTS, along with citations and resources. It requires that they would actually have to READ and COMPREHEND information that does not suit their agenda. It’s sad, really, when you simply can’t plant anything in those empty heads but half-truths, dis-information, misinformation, and outright lies. Even numbers confuse and befuddle them. Trying to explain what comes out of the man’s pocket – his OWN pocket – and what does not just does not compute with them. Showing actual verified statistics from reputable sources doesn’t make a dent. Whether the man goes “home” or to a hotel does not mean a thing to them – BOTH of them involve leaving the White House, flying in Air Force 1 because they are REQUIRED to due to security measures that cost money no matter what, and spending time away from the White House. Now, the FACT that every time Bush did it he returned HOME does not mean it did not “cost us anything.” YEAH – and Air Force 1 knows the difference between flying “home” and flying to any other destination, so it certainly takes NO fuel, maintenance, upkeep, security, and so forth while gone on its journeys making such journeys FREE!! It’s ONLY when it flies to any other destination does it send a bill for fuel, maintenance, upkeep, security measures, and so forth. Of course EVERY time it flies, it costs a base amount of money, so taking it out like 4500 times MORE than another individual has used it certainly doesn’t cost us MORE money, eh? The man is desperately trying to deal with the biggest bunch of obstructionist boneheads ever to be sitting in DC, and THEY are gone for 5 weeks! Heaven knows all that obstructionism is SO exhausting, and planning more will take just more energy than they can possibly generate without a 5 week break. Heaven knows the President couldn’t possibly need any kind of a break with his family after all that nonsense day in and day out.
        NOW – if it would be at all possible for all those sheets to be taken off all those empty heads, there might be a chance in hell for some of them to actually absorb something besides Faux Noise, and all that other pandering to the Neo-Cons.
        Good going, with all the efforts, but it just looks like you’re talking to empty chairs……

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          I know I’m beating my head against the wall, Shari, but I just can’t help myself. I have to repeat the same things over and over knowing that they won’t listen, at best and at worst just respond by calling me a liar but it is infuriating to see the same lies and distortions repeated every day. I’ve said it many times and I know it’s true that one cannot educate the willfully ignorant yet I find myself attempting the impossible time and again. I kind of liked Richard R’s suggestion a few days ago. He said just tell them it must be true because you heard it on Fox and they won’t even fact check you.

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    and when all this money is spent where does it go ? back into the economy !!!!!

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    The back and forth between you Republi-Cons and you Demo-Craps is what costs the American people. Since “ignorance is bliss” why aren’t all of you euphorically happy? Nothing has changed in the world of politics. Presidents get to take time off. It’s a perk of the job. Just like with most jobs in the real world. But since few of you mentally reside in the “real” world, I see how you can choose to make this a point of divisive contention. Just like how you choose to blindly follow and support divisive political party platform propaganda. In the not-so-distant past, it wasn’t so easy for the average citizen to make their voice heard. The internet changed all that. Now that you have the tools in place which you could use to affect positive changes on our great country, you choose instead to waste your time and ours by using your internet “soapbox” to argue endlessly over non-issues which bear no importance whatsoever. You prove yourselves to be like the mindless, mesmerized children who blindly followed the Pied Piper. You dance to the propaganda tunes of your political party, blindly following along and never realizing you’ve been deceived. No amount of arguing will convince any of you that you’ve been deceived and misled by the politicians you elected. No amount of screaming will make you realize that YOU, WE, the American people, have allowed this to happen in the past and permit to happen in the present. You have the power to change things! You have the power to force positive changes, both in Washington and at home. You have the power to end the corporate-sponsored corruption that makes every seat and position in our government up for sale to the highest bidder. You have the power to make your officials do what you want by organizing and working together to change our broken system. You have the ability to make America ONE nation, under God, with LIBERTY and JUSTICE FOR ALL. Not just for some, not just for the elite, not just for big corporations, not just for profit-motivated politicians. But it takes WORK. Lots of hard work. And that’s why you’ll never do it. It takes too much hard work, and you would actually have to do more than sit in front of a computer in the comfort and safety of your own little world, trolling the internet to see where you can anonymously cause more divisiveness, while spreading the Republi-Con and Demo-Crap corporate-sponsored party platforms. You deserve all the misery you’re creating for yourselves. Sad, because it doesn’t have to be that way. Really sad.

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      I was going to simply rebut some of your “points”, Barry, but then I saw that there was no point in bothering to attempt rational debate with you when I saw one line near the end. This is NOT, never was and never will be a nation “under God.” Take your Christian Sharia Fundamentalist crap and shove it up there along side of your head!

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        I second that. The ignorance of these folks is astonishing

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        Hey, Bob … when you accuse someone, you better be sure of you’re accusations. You are exactly what I was talking about … a small-minded, discriminatory, party-line zombie and you didn’t even deserve my eloquent, PRO-AMERICAN post. If you don’t like our Pledge of Allegiance, (ie, your GOD comment, since you’re probably incapable of figuring that out for yourself) then get out of my country. Until they strike the words from our pledge, from our money, and from nearly every important document produced by the “founding fathers” this will be “ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.” Love it, or LEAVE IT. You’re the biggest part of the problem, and exactly what I was addressing in my post. Point: Sharia fundamentalism and Christianity have nothing to do with each other, and nothing to do with my post. The fact you combine them into a pseudo-religious, thinly veiled personal attack (as well as an attack on anyone who believes in “God”) simply shows the true depths of your personal and political dementia. Have a Coke and a smile and STFU. ..I..

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          You feel that you have the right to tell me to get out of MY country? What were you doing in the late 60′s when I was in the Army? Where do you get the idea that the founders intended this to be a “Christian” nation? They wanted no part of a church run or influenced government, that is what they had just overthrown. Those words that you find to be so sacred are younger than I am, they were introduced on the money and into the pledge (a sales gimmick dreamed up by a clever flag salesman) in the 50′s, WOW that’s a real back to the founders tradition.

          There is no difference in any kind of religious law! A religious law is a bad law no matter what religion it comes from because you have no right to impose your religious beliefs on anyone. The my way or the highway attitude is not limited to Muslims that is the attitude of the “Christian” right here in this country as well. You may ask why I put that word in quotes, I do that because I have never had any contact with anyone in the “Christian” right who has ever had a truly Christian thought in his/her life.

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            Hear, hear! Well stated.

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            You really are a big part of the problem. You can’t even face up to the things I actually said. You’ve got far too much time on your hands. In your retirement, I mean. Sitting at home, trolling the internet, setting yourself up as the answer all man. Tell you what … next time I get up in your neck of the woods, I’ll look you up and we can discuss your deeply seeded “God” issues. I like New York. Especially Farmington, where everyone is so pleasant and open-minded. Well, *nearly* everyone. And by the way, I’m a former United States Marine. Remember? We’re the ones who always bailed you army boys out of trouble whenever you started a fight you couldn’t finish.

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            I have no God issues, what I do have is a problem with people who are not content to practice their religion without feeling they have the right to foist it on others. I know enough about several religions to know those who are paying lip service to their religion and which ones actually follow it. Those paying lip service are the ones who think they have the right to proselytize and incorporate their view of what their religion teaches (seldom even close to the actual teaching) into our laws. Just as the 1st amendment gives you the right to freely practice any religion you choose, it gives me the right to be free from any religion at all.

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            Now, there … we agree. I don’t want to force any religion on anyone. Nor do I want to see anyone belittled, persecuted or discriminated against for their choice of religion … or their race, ethnic heritage, economic status, or any other reason. And when I say ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, well, I actually mean it. That doesn’t mean endorsing a religion, or the lack of religion either. I choose to think that if we can take all the GOOD things which can be gleaned from what the “godhead” of any stands for, i.e., the value of human life, doing good rather than evil, to respect all other people and treat them the way we expect to be treated, to forgive rather than to bear grudges and extract revenge, to care for the poor, sick, elderly or clearly less fortunate and in need of our assistance, to be honest and have integrity … well if that’s what we take “under God” to stand for, it’s really a pretty good thing, wouldn’t you agree? I don’t say those come from “God”, nor that anyone must have religion to live by those standards. What I AM saying is that we are really just pledging to be good citizens who live by a set of standards which give every American, rich, poor, middle class, etc., the same fair treatment, opportunity, and chance for a decent life in a system not based on your social, economic or financial status. I don’t endorse ANY religion, nor do I berate or discriminate against any religion or the people who practice those religions. It is the people screaming the loudest that “you’re trying to divide our country and create class warfare,” who are in fact the ones that have purposely created those class divisions. Currently, we live in a country where people like the Koch brothers can fund the Tea Party, create “media outlets” and “educational non-profit organizations”, spend billions of dollars to buy every local, state and national politician they can, destroy our environment and Eco-system, ALL for the bottom line profits of Koch Industries and the personal wealth and agendas of the Koch Brothers themselves. It’s been that way for as long as anyone can remember. Many choose to call that “capitalism” and “free enterprise.” They use tools like the Citizen’s United decision from the Supreme Court to give unlimited political contributions to the elected officials and candidates they have purchased in order to do away things like the clean air act and the clean water act, just so they can spew their oil refinery pollution unchecked into our air, and their Georgia Pacific paper mill pollution into our water. The Koch Brothers epitomize corporate sponsored political corruption in America, but there are so many thousands just like them. Many former presidents have said we must fear corporate takeover of government, as this leads to fascism, and is the single greatest threat to our personal freedoms and liberty. Yet we idolize people like Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney and Donald trump, all the time turning a blind eye to that beggar of the corner who lost his job so Bain Capital could takeover and dismantle another company for profit, or the homeless woman under the bridge who was denied healthcare by one of Trump’s companies and lost everything due to her debilitating illness that could have been avoided through medical treatment. How is that right, moral or fair? So if you want, you can say this … ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. See? You can take “God” out of it, and it still has the same message. I agree, and I will fight against anyone trying to legislate religion to me, especially when it’s based on the selective parts of any “Bible” they choose to believe in. We can’t expect corrupt politicians WE have elected and re-elected to legislate anything truly beneficial to the majority of Americans. We certainly cannot expect that those same corrupt politicians will clean up a corrupt system, along with their own corruption, put themselves out of a job, and send themselves to prison. It’s going to take the people of this country realizing they are being screwed by ALL the politicians (and their corporate benefactors), then coming together and working together to affect genuine change. No party lines, no B.S. Just Americans doing the right thing for America, and their fellow Americans. I know that’s terribly idealistic. But I will always choose to believe in what the America I love CAN BE … ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL! “You can say that I’m a dreamer … but I’m not the only one.” We can do more than just “imagine” a better America. We can actually create a better America. I’ve been trying for years :-)

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            That is exactly the problem that I have with religion, it is not the religion or even the concept, it is the people who think theirs is the only answer. We will never be able to convince radical Islamists that we are not their enemy but we can slow their recruitment efforts by shutting the “Fundamentalist Christians” up. They are fueling the fires and creating new radicals every time the refer to them as “Godless” and misrepresent what the Qur’an says. They are a much greater danger to this country than the terrorists themselves because they are fomenting the violence with their ignorant rhetoric. Hell, most of them have a twisted interpretation of what their own Bible says.

            A friend of mine posted something on FB last week that summed up the potential evil in religion pretty well in just a few words, I don’t recall the exact wording but it went something like this; When a man tells you that he needs God to keep him moral he is telling you that if he didn’t have his religion he would kill you.

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            If the Teapubs comments weren’t so ignorant it would be funny. In the past couple of years I’ve become extremely frightened by the ignorance of the right wing. They are most Noticeably totally inept of comprehending the difference between faux news programs that are admittedly just that. Entertainment for the most gullible and illiterate people that live in this country. How have they stayed dummied down for so long and been able to ignore factual based truths? Facts are facts, and one irrefutable fact is that the new, not so improved right wing followers have become beyond stupid. It’s truly worrisome that my grandchildren have to be raised with such dolts and morons.

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            Bob, ever notice how when a person does not have the intellect to respond with an intelligent answer, they resort to the “F” word?

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            I’ve noticed that and more, Theresa. If they come out swinging with the vile names and F yous they don’t even know why they disagree with you just that you are on the other side and therefore MUST be wrong. I will admit, however that there are times when I get so tired of answering their names and F yous with factual arguments to back my stance up that I do give in to temptation and return the favor in kind. I try to just stop replying but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. LOL :D

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            There’s a rather huge difference between imploring a party-line moron to STFU (shut the f*** up), versus saying “f*** you.” If you had half the intellect you *think* you have, you wouldn’t be on these sites wasting time making worthless, ineffectual arguments for your “side”. You’d be too busy working to affect positive change to be trolling these sites. The exclamation point to that argument is the fact you need to seek out Bob’s approval and acceptance. There’s only ONE side in this country … and that’s “AMERICAN.” One nation, indivisible. But still you choose to take a party “side” and continue the avoiding the REAL problems we face. Demo-crap or Republi-con, you’re all the same. Try being part of the solution instead of contributing to the problem. Try being just an “American” for a change. It’s much more rewarding than being internet trolls.

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      Amen Barry.
      I’m a high school U.S. History teacher and I encourage my students to be politically aware, to know the history of the nation and its politics. I have voted for both parties in national elections, starting with Carter (that tells you how old I am). Because I was engaged in running a small business with my former husband in the 80s, I voted for Reagan. Because I didn’t have good sense for a while I voted for the Bushes. I helped elect Obama twice. I have freely changed my political views as times and issues and my own enlightenment have warranted. I’ve tried to enter into this discussion recently, but all I see on both sides is a lot of name calling, and the posting of cute political ads that seems to excite everyone to an irrational fervor. Where’s the intelligent, rational, open discourse so necessary in a democracy. I just found this site a few moments ago and was very hopeful, but the hysteria is here as well. The free marketplace of ideas has deteriorated into bedlam. I am dismayed.

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        Jeez Barry. I turn my back for just a moment and now you’re having name-calling shouting match with Bob. Where’s the sanity in this discussion? I had hope for a moment . . .

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          Sorry, Faith, didn’t mean to sound like that :-) Here, I thought about it and replied with this:

          Now, there … we agree. I don’t want to force any religion on anyone. Nor do I want to see anyone belittled, persecuted or discriminated against for their choice of religion … or their race, ethnic heritage, economic status, or any other reason. And when I say ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, well, I actually mean it. That doesn’t mean endorsing a religion, or the lack of religion either. I choose to think that if we can take all the GOOD things which can be gleaned from what the “godhead” of any stands for, i.e., the value of human life, doing good rather than evil, to respect all other people and treat them the way we expect to be treated, to forgive rather than to bear grudges and extract revenge, to care for the poor, sick, elderly or clearly less fortunate and in need of our assistance, to be honest and have integrity … well if that’s what we take “under God” to stand for, it’s really a pretty good thing, wouldn’t you agree? I don’t say those come from “God”, nor that anyone must have religion to live by those standards. What I AM saying is that we are really just pledging to be good citizens who live by a set of standards which give every American, rich, poor, middle class, etc., the same fair treatment, opportunity, and chance for a decent life in a system not based on your social, economic or financial status. I don’t endorse ANY religion, nor do I berate or discriminate against any religion or the people who practice those religions. It is the people screaming the loudest that “you’re trying to divide our country and create class warfare,” who are in fact the ones that have purposely created those class divisions. Currently, we live in a country where people like the Koch brothers can fund the Tea Party, create “media outlets” and “educational non-profit organizations”, spend billions of dollars to buy every local, state and national politician they can, destroy our environment and Eco-system, ALL for the bottom line profits of Koch Industries and the personal wealth and agendas of the Koch Brothers themselves. It’s been that way for as long as anyone can remember. Many choose to call that “capitalism” and “free enterprise.” They use tools like the Citizen’s United decision from the Supreme Court to give unlimited political contributions to the elected officials and candidates they have purchased in order to do away things like the clean air act and the clean water act, just so they can spew their oil refinery pollution unchecked into our air, and their Georgia Pacific paper mill pollution into our water. The Koch Brothers epitomize corporate sponsored political corruption in America, but there are so many thousands just like them. Many former presidents have said we must fear corporate takeover of government, as this leads to fascism, and is the single greatest threat to our personal freedoms and liberty. Yet we idolize people like Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney and Donald trump, all the time turning a blind eye to that beggar of the corner who lost his job so Bain Capital could takeover and dismantle another company for profit, or the homeless woman under the bridge who was denied healthcare by one of Trump’s companies and lost everything due to her debilitating illness that could have been avoided through medical treatment. How is that right, moral or fair? So if you want, you can say this … ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. See? You can take “God” out of it, and it still has the same message. I agree, and I will fight against anyone trying to legislate religion to me, especially when it’s based on the selective parts of any “Bible” they choose to believe in. We can’t expect corrupt politicians WE have elected and re-elected to legislate anything truly beneficial to the majority of Americans. We certainly cannot expect that those same corrupt politicians will clean up a corrupt system, along with their own corruption, put themselves out of a job, and send themselves to prison. It’s going to take the people of this country realizing they are being screwed by ALL the politicians (and their corporate benefactors), then coming together and working together to affect genuine change. No party lines, no B.S. Just Americans doing the right thing for America, and their fellow Americans. I know that’s terribly idealistic. But I will always choose to believe in what the America I love CAN BE … ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL! “You can say that I’m a dreamer … but I’m not the only one.” We can do more than just “imagine” a better America. We can actually create a better America. I’ve been trying for years :-)

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            Well said Barry!! I completely agree. Now, what do we do next? I’m doing all I can in my classroom – not to indoctrinate, but to teach the next generation to think critically and unselfishly for the good of us all. I think America can do better.

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    I HEAR ALL OF YOU…JUST LIKE MOST AMERICAN CITIZENS… I AM NOT A MEMBER TO ANY PARTY….THAT SAID ….THE DEMOCRATS COMES OUT SINCE DAY ONE…. AGAINST PRESIDENT BUSH….PRESIDENT OBAMA IS PRESENTLY IN OFFICE…AT THE TIME WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH WAS PRESIDENT, OUR ECONOMY WAS NOT AS IT IS TODAY…WEATHER BUSH ADMINISTRATION HANDLE OR TOOK PART OF THE ECONOMY…THE FACT STILL REMAINS. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BEEN AND STILL IS THE PRESIDENT….AND YET OVER FIVE YEARS IN OFFICE NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT THE ECONOMY!!! THAT’S WHATS THE FRUSTRATION IS ALL ABOUT….YOU ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. AND STOP POINTING FINGERS…THE AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE NOT PAYING YOU ALL TO BICKER BUT SIMPLY DO YOUR JOB….THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION WHEN AMERICA AND HER CITIZENS ARE SUFFERING!!!! YOU WHERE ALL VOTED IN BY THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA IN THE HOPE THAT OUR ECONOMY WILL CHANGE…WE HAVE YET TO SEE THAT HOPE….EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO AMERICA AND HER CITIZENS….WHERE IS THE ETHICS IN POLITICS????…….EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN IS CONSUME WITH THERE SUFFERING…..THIS WAS NOT THE CASE WHEN OUR ECONOMY WAS STRIVING…WHAT MAKES IT WORST IS WHEN THEY ARE BIG PURSES TO FILL (FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC) AND ALL THOSE OTHER PURSES….AND NO ONE IS SAYING OR DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!YET YOU ALL HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH!!!!! WHEN DOES THE POINTING FINGER STOP!!!!! WE ARE FED UP OF THE BICKERING!!! AMERICA NEEDS HER GLORY BACK!!!!!

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      Come back when you grow up and learn to speak coherently in a normal tone of voice, young lady. Most of your rant is so ridiculous that it is unworthy of any response.

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      Your arguments and points of view would have a far greater power to convince if you would simply write them grammatically and spell them correctly. Despite what many Republicans seem to believe, education is not evil, ignorance is not a virtue and being able to express yourself clearly usually wins out over stupidity.

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        THANK you, Donna. I am so tired of being called a “grammar Nazi” because I notice and comment on these things, but I have just started to automatically skip over arguments such as these because to me they have no validity. With articulate (i.e., well spelled and grammatically correct) posts I at least read to the end, even if I might not agree with the content.

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        Ditto Donna, very well put.

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      You are a closet Republican and uninformed.

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      Dems hated bush from day one, huh? How many times did bush raise the debt ceiling without democrats holding economy hostage and causing our credit to be downgraded? It’s trick question because democrats NEVER held our economy hostage and caused our credit rating to be downgraded! Bush was never in any fights to raise debt ceiling, nor was reagan, but God forbid Obama dare ask for an increase! The lwvel of republican obstruction has NEVER been seen in history! Now the next budget battle is looming with repubes saying they’ll shut down the government to keep Obama from any legislative success! Are you that ignorant to the FACT congress has voted 41 times to repeal or defund Obamacare without submitting anything to replace it? Are you aware that republican speaker boehner sets the congressional calendar and decides which bills can even come up for a vote? Because if you knew this you would know boehner will not even allow any of the President’s jobs bills to come to a vote, not a single one! Even with all the obstruction, this economy is clearly amd demonstrably better today than the day Obama took office, by every measure amd has continued to improve whether you keep blinders on or not! Nothing’s been done about the economy? What are you smoking? First it’s admirable you give bush a pass on crashing the economy then being to jump from the impending train wreck because generous more patriotic people like you have rushed out to catch the little shrub and gently lower him to the ground without so much as a scratch, but it’s painfully obvious that your Faux News talking points repetitive course hasn’t given you time to realize the last 46 months or so of jobs being added, whilesaving domestic auto production! Nothing’s been done, huh? Stock market at an all time high certainly helps those people with 401k’s as well as investors! Either you live the lifestyle of a 7 year cicada or you are willfully and intentionally dumb! Either way, turn off Faux News for a short while everyday until you’re weened from the right wingnut gloom and doom tour!

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    The dollar figures represented in this argument are laughably small. It’s obvious that what a President does, where he goes, and what he spends on vacation amounts to nothing relative to the money squandered elsewhere in our system. Think about it. It’s incredibly ridiculous. It’s the stupidity and short sightedness our “leaders” who are manipulated from day one in their political careers to serve the dollar and those who have them that will explain things. If you boil world politics down it basically gels into what you see on any street corner on the bad side of any town. Evolution, or God, (your choice as it really doesn’t matter) has left the human population with but a few rival gangs of any power or significance to wrestle for control of, well….., everything. These pools of humanity are lead by those who get “leaders” elected. These elected (appointed) leaders then act in the best interest of the common man as long as the common man is willing to waste their time talking about where the President vacations or otherwise take it anally on a daily basis convinced that it can’t be better. Doing “Business as usual” and giving the working class just enough to keep them happy has been the standard for centuries. It’s really no surprise and not even cause for alarm as this is the real nature of any human leadership circle. When you throw greed and the want for power into the mix you start to see unexplainable actions that hurt the general population beyond reason. I’m talking about incredibly stupid decisions Like the 1980 Russian Grain Embargo That put hundreds of small farmers out of the industry, sent the Russian grain market to South America and put farm subsidies into place to smooth things over. No need to mention the billions in collateral financial damage. Our court system also favors mismanaged, failing corporations over the people who poured their lives into them as well as other better managed companies waiting to step in on the market share. Study United Airlines or Peabody Energy to see how pensions are so easily stripped from those who earned them. We’ve become world famous for Darwin defying things like unfunded wars, big bank bailouts, bailouts for any giant failing corporation, political nepotism, job exportation, you name it. So let’s talk more about Martha’s Vinyard and Crawford TX while our “leaders” joust each other for their share of the pie we all eat. Common sense, as it applies to a thief, is called rationalization.

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      Wow, finally someone with a well-crafted, coherent comment. A few moments ago I told Barry “amen” on his statement, but by the time I could post, he was already having a shouting match with the others. Where is the informed citizenry who really wants to find the solution to our problems as a nation. I am an educator and I just came back from a month long seminar in Chicago studying with other educators the history of the Gilded Age and Progressive Era, arguably the root of the social, political, and economic problems we are still confronting today. The more I read and study, the more I am convinced that most of our problems are rooted in inequality of the populace. Shouting about how many days or the cost of our President’s (present or past) time away does nothing to move this nation forward. It seems that people on both sides of the argument are usually interested in protecting or maintaining whatever social position they have in current society. That’s why you hear so much talk about “the middle class.” Those of us who have a comfortable lifestyle are so afraid that we might somehow loose that position. We fear somehow finding ourselves among the ranks of the actual poor in this country because we realize that once there, no one in the “middle class” is going to really give a damn. I commented on Facebook to an old high school friend who constantly posts Obama-hating messages, and said that I don’t believe the middle class is suffering. There was some discussion, and I finally said that “we don’t do without like the poor do.” Boy howdy, did that get some responses. Ultimately I was told that there are a lot of ways to suffer without “going without.” I don’t even know what that means. When did we become such a selfish country, and yet so many want to tout their Christian ideals on social media. I makes no sense.

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    I hardly think that spending time at your own ranch costs as much as taking exotic trips overseas. Give me a break!

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    ignoring the stupidity of arguing these vacations I would like to point out another misunderstanding..that being the immigration bill. There was talk about how many time the house has voted on it (40) and why they continue to do so. Truth be told..they have to continue voting on it to keep it alive..If it is not sent to the senate in a given time period it dies and then there has to be a certain time limit before it can be brought back for a vote..The House know that Harry reid controls all the bills going to the Senate and if he were to get this bill sponsered by the house republicans he would just put it aside until time elapsed and the bill would die…It is not up to the Congressmen to decide what to vote on Harry Reid makes those decisions..My guess is it will be some time before an immigration bill will go to the Senate b/c as it is written the Democrats would kill it..I also believe no matter how people scream to have Obama impeached on several Constitutional infractions that will not happen either. The republicans are hoping they can hold the House and regain the senate in 2014..If they do…you may see impeachment proceedings….If the republicans get control of both houses i would be very surprised if Obama finishes his term…

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    Read Bilderberg Ultimate Control if you’d like to know the truth about all the media manipulations and propoganda…it’s sickening how ignorant the American public is. 80% is to blame on the vulture elite. The other 20% blame falls on Lazy Americans not willing to research the facts for themselves: http://www.amazon.com/Bilderberg-Ultimate-Nolan-J-Reynolds/dp/1621830365/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1376435378&sr=8-4&keywords=bilderberg

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      I think you just nailed it Nolan.

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      It’s far easier to listen to wild and extremely exaggerated lies from gop like bauchmann and gomert saying the President sortied more than a third of our navy with some made up staggering daily cost for his asian trip few years ago, that was so high, military generals laughed on tv! Or that jackass commenting on martha’s vineyard being known for the elite! Hey douchebag, how far is that from kennebunkport, anyway? I’m not so good with geography! This country is hurting, you say? Reagan sure as hell didn’t stay away from malibu until that recession had ended, did he? And in those dark days after 911 bush worked just as tough to bring bad guys down, texas style as the Founding Fathers did to end slavery! (another bauchmann gem) “I won’t rest til I bring these no good terroists, who hate our way of life and freedoms that all Americans enjoy, to justice from wherever they are they better hide because we’re coming for them! That’s all…NOW WATCH ME HIT THIS DRIVE!” George W. Bush while on vavation right after 911!

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    As far as the dog goes, it is quite common for families to take their dog with them on vacation, he is after all part of the family. You did not bother to read the fine print, besides Beau in the 2nd helicopter, he traveled with all their baggage and other equipment, do you really think one helicopter would hold all them and all their luggage and necessary equipment as well. I am sure this was the most economical way of getting them and all their baggage, supplies and equipment. The President is after all a wealthy man he and his wife are both highly educated professionals and used to living well, as have been all of our former presidents. (Well the used to living well part any way.)

    I would hate to see where Romney would have vacationed and the bills he would have racked up.

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      Thank you Kenneth. I’m so sick of hearing about the damn dog. It did not travel alone in a Pullman Palace car of helicopters, right?

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      Thank you Kenneth. I am so tired of hearing about the damn dog and his helicopter ride. It’s not like he flew alone in a specially designed Pullman Palace Doggy Car of helicopters. Did it really cost anything to throw the pooch on with the baggage? The whole argument on both sides is laughable! Why do so many focus on this kind of issue instead of trying to work together to make things better for all Americans?

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      Most everywhere this President travels he is accompanied not one 747, but two 747′s, known as Air Force One, when he is on board of course, both appearing the same as well as three identical Sikorsky helicopters, known as Marine One, when he is onboard, for the purpose of using decoys! The President’s security is dictated by the Secret Service and not by the President. The truly disgusting thing about repubes even mentioning costs is the constant race baiting by first asking what’s he so afraid of that he even needs any real security for himself and his family especially here in the states, implying he somehow isn’t worth it in spite of being head of state and second is the mention of the massive amount of security is so overwhelming it forces businesses to shut down he can frolic on our dime and not care about the local mom and pop businesses trying to make it day to day! This is done in such an evil underhanded manner so as to imply this has NEVER been done before! What makes him think he’s so special? Not enough people are informed or realize this has been standard pratice long before Obama was elected, but all they’ll ever see is some uppitty negro spending our hard earned tax dollars!

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      And you can’t strap your dog to the top of a helicopter.

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    Just so you know, everybody, the President and Mrs. Obama went straight to Massachusetts to begin their vacation after attending the VFW convention in Florida. Would you rather they had taken Air Force One back to Washington to pick up the dog and schlep him to Martha’s Vineyard? Perhaps you would prefer that Bo remain in Washington all alone while his “family” vacationed. Give me a freakin’ break! Face it folks, if President Obama was white, this wouldn’t be an issue.

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    Why all of you are so concern about the vacation time the president is taking? big deal Bush was on vacation more Obama less. is that your problem.

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    Any plane the president is known as XX-1. It could be a Cessna 172. It’s for call sign purposes and has nothing to do with security. AF-1 is also a mobile command center. That’s why there a two of them. There a usually 6 jets flying cover as well. Not advertised.

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    My problem is teabillies criticizing BO for something that republicans did routinely, and in greater numbers, The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

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